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Unread post by Yaya » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:01 am

Moonbeam wrote:
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Apologies, Zoners! Thank you, Yaya, for posting that article. I found it well worth the read! :bigwave:
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Unread post by Lbock » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:23 pm

Another Hit Article.

Read with this archive link so they don't get credit

https://archive.vn/eENDj

Unfortunately, he pissed off TMG, Bloom (lawyer oral. Contracts) and the media in general (free press/free speech). They will never stop now.

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Unread post by Newt » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:53 pm

If he wins in VA, will they really keep going? And IF the appeal succeeds, what then?

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Unread post by Granna » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:05 pm

Newt:

What do you think the spin will be if/when Team Heard can not produce the charity receipts? Proving that she is very much the liar. IMO - this will get worse before we get any better. If Judge White keeps her foaming at the mouth, JD might catch a break. Let's remember, TMG, Bloom etc., got caught for their mishandling of funds, ending their reign on money hungry derailment of their clients.
They were suppose to protect and shield them from others taking advantage - because THEY were too busy doing it to their clients.

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Unread post by Lbock » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:45 pm

No matter what, I do not think the media will print anyting against her. Not any big media. Johnny dared to sue one of their own and lost. They will do nothing to help him. Which is exactly what we are seing with the THR article and now Business Insider. They are jumping on the band wagon to make sure he never works again. They don't care about Amber one little bit. IMO

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Unread post by Lbock » Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:47 pm

Adding to my previous post.

The UK tabloids will definitely not report about the donations or anything against AH as she is their new News Darling.

I think the spin will be that it's JD fault for all her legal fees that she couldn't donate. Yes, she claimed to donate before he filed, but I think the media will be loosey goosey with all that. And she did file after the GQUK article for arbitration. So they may use that.

Also, London Fields did sue her during her divorce so she could even claim that it was all beyond her control. She sorta won London Fields by default because the company went out of business. I think they settled, we will drop the charges if you appear at the LA premier and we also agree to let the director's cut be released.

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:41 am

I agree Lbock - just like many outlets ignored the tapes, they will ignore the charity donations.

The Daily Mail (the most widely read newspaper in the world)- for all its failing will however print it and it will go viral on social media. She can use semantics all she likes the fact is she said repeatedly that she donated and it must have been referred to in the court documents in the UK - otherwise the judge could not have used it to argue against the gold digger label in what laughably passed as a judgement. And in VA - she had the opportunity to come clean and say she didn't/couldn't donate but has instead tried to keep the whole thing under wraps.

But please lets hold onto these important things:

1. Press support does not translate for her into public support. She is loathed at worst and at best most people still have no idea who she is or at least what work she's done.

2. The film industry will assiduously watch the support he's getting - it is exactly the kind of support that the streaming services want/need.

3. He's got immense talent, even bitchy articles like this cannot deny it - neither can they deny that he can turn all of this around with a good project.

So it is more important than ever that we - his supporters - carry on the support even during this hellish lockdown. Comments on social media, buying Sauvage and most importantly watching his films.

At the end of the day money is what matters to these firms. It is what will matter to Dior and it is what will matter to film producers. His picture was all over the busiest parts of London during December (thank goodness the government let us see a lot of him before locking us down again.)

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:04 am

And to continue my theme, I see her legions of supporters are out in full again today.

This video - 88 thousand dislikes! 582 likes - come on, when are the MSM going to realise we are not fooled.



But in all seriousness, a while ago I asked for someone to help me out on the main tape where she confesses hitting (not punching) him, and a little more clarity on her stans' claims that Brian had "edited" it to make her look bad. What did Brian leave out which exonerated her or at least supported her position that she was the victim and he was the violent abuser? I've listened to the entire recording a few times now and I wanted someone to please help me find the bits Brian cut out which made her look good.

One of her fans has helpfully done a thread. The first piece has got a whole 54 likes so clearly going viral. Anyway, I decided to listen to it and read the captions and give it a fair chance. Hmmmm, yes he fully admits to splitting, getting angry, having trust issues. He praises her for the lovely things she does for him which he clearly at the time really values (and which I suspect was a way of keeping him in love with her - well that's fair enough. But also controlling him - not fair enough). Nowhere does he say any equivalent of "I was hitting you." In one place - which is also on Brian's edit - he says he leaves because he cannot bear the thought of any more physical abuse on each other. If we had nothing else to go on - that might be a red flag. But in the context of everything else we know, it is of no surprise that her side have not seized on that. No - they have never said there was mutual abuse only that she was terrified of him and only hit back once. She also bangs on and on about how she NEVER lies. That has not exactly aged well.

And another thought on the article Lbock posted. MOTOE story - again hmmmm. Like the story about him backstage at ComicCon for FB2, it quotes more 'sources' (I expect the same one). But think about this. Supposing it's true and day one Johnny is late, gets a slap on the wrist from the director. Does he throw a hissy fit? Does he spend the rest of the time sulking and acting like the Hollywood star? No - even by the article's own admission he is very apologetic and turns up on time every day. Oh and the director and cast in the publicity all go out of their way to praise him. Wow what an out of control character he is!

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:16 pm

Amber Heard will blame someone else for not donating all the money to charity because nothing is ever her fault.
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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:52 pm

ForeverYoung - of course - you are so right.

After probably blaming her accountant, assistant, bank manager she'll no doubt blame Johnny. It was after all Johnny's money, from Johnny's films, that Johnny earned and put into Johnny's bank account. So yeah ....

He didn't give her any money. She's always been financially independent of him. She tried to explain it to him but she had to hit him. Then a bird flew into the room. But she wasn't there, she didn't see him write the cheque. There was mash potato in the money. Then she watched him steal the money with a Bakelite telephone. All while she waited outside the bathroom door because he was going to pass out from drugs and alcohol.

I literally cannot wait to hear what's coming.

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:29 pm

Wow just read it through, will need to read again several times.

I love that the Deppheads had caught all of these excellent points, albeit that David Sherborne and Kate Wilson say it even more beautifully (and with smatterings of legal precedent).

It certainly pulls no punches, is not sensationalist and sticks wholly to the facts as presented in the case.

It seems unarguable especially given that all NGN had was AH's word which was contradictory of the other evidence, contemporaneous documents (loved how often they used that phrase), and her own words. It argued repeatedly that the judge just accepted her word and brushed aside everything else without explaining why, which he is legally required to do.

Well that has certainly given me a boost - and this well argued piece, along with the charity receipts helps explain why the MSM are focusing fire power on him.

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Unread post by Polly17+ » Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:17 pm

Hello! New to the Board. I read everything posted by the VA court- all the actual legal documents. By the way, I did see that the IO Tillett subpoena was requested by Johnny’s team, so will be interested to see what they wish to stress with them. (Way down at the bottom, it stated request came from those representing JD.) I am getting here that JD team filed to the Court of Appeal a couple of days ago, and that we can read the document? Can we? Where?

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Unread post by nebraska » Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:54 pm

I do not have a Twitter account so maybe I need to wait for Nick to post it on the website?

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:14 pm

Here is a UK reporter, Nick Wallis, who was reporting during the trial. He was able to get the appeal papers and summzarize them.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1341 ... 58339.html
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