The Lawsuits Thread

[jruoss]

London Fields is supposed to be releasing soon

You don't say? That situation seemed to be a hopeless mess, I'm pretty surprised it's going to be released? I guess whoever invested in it wants to get some of their money back, but at this point, seeing Johnny in the same movie w AH and Billy Bob Thorton would be thoroughly weird I think.

[Ruby Begonia]

....her current L'Oreal mention pic, "advertising" L'Oreal's new makeup line, Les Chocolats.

Must have been extra- annoying for you, "Chocolat"!

I was horrified to find out L'Oreal had hired her since I USED TO buy some of their cosmetics and sulfate- free hair products. The Guess label is also a turnoff due to her past representation of it (which was thanks to JD, of course).

[Ruby Begonia]

London Fields is supposed to be releasing soon

You don't say? That situation seemed to be a hopeless mess, I'm pretty surprised it's going to be released? I guess whoever invested in it wants to get some of their money back, but at this point, seeing Johnny in the same movie w AH and Billy Bob Thorton would be thoroughly weird I think.

jruoss. IMDB shows a Sep 20, 2018 release date and, back in June, the Shockya website had a ticket giveaway contest. I wasn't able to find tickets on Fandango as of today, so who knows?

Do any legal minds here know if the studio could release the film if the suits and countersuits are still being litigated? Last info I saw was an article on The Blast back in Feb 2018 that Amber was sanctioned approx $7,000 by the court for avoiding giving her deposition.

The 2015 cut of London Fields is at 0% with 11 reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. Some of the reviews are funny but scathing. The last one by The Independent calls the film " car- crash filmmaking" and that all the performances are terrible except the good one by Johnny, who is uncredited. Johnny was also doing this film for free, l believe. Since Johnny doesn't stand to profit from London Fields, this will be the first Depp film I will have no problem skipping should it ever appear in a theater.

[meeps]

Curious question, but maybe a bit off topic
When a newspaper "obtain" court documents, what does that usually means? Can anybody (or just journalists) read any court documents pertaining to any case? Or have they got access in a more underhanded manner?
I am of course delighted, that we can read, what Johnny is stating. But it just made me curious.

[Judymac]

There has been a long period of time between the filming of Aquaman and the upcoming release. AH has been forgotton. She needs attention and this is her way of getting it.

She was at Comic Con with the rest of the Aquaman cast.
The Aquaman panel was held shortly after the FB panel with Johnny.

I know that but that was very recently. My point was that she has not been getting the attention that she craves. I meant in general over a long period of time.

[SnoopyDances]

There has been a long period of time between the filming of Aquaman and the upcoming release. AH has been forgotton. She needs attention and this is her way of getting it.

She was at Comic Con with the rest of the Aquaman cast.
The Aquaman panel was held shortly after the FB panel with Johnny.

I know that but that was very recently. My point was that she has not been getting the attention that she craves. I meant in general over a long period of time.

She can manufacture her attention when she wants to.

[SnoopyDances]

Curious question, but maybe a bit off topic
When a newspaper "obtain" court documents, what does that usually means? Can anybody (or just journalists) read any court documents pertaining to any case? Or have they got access in a more underhanded manner?
I am of course delighted, that we can read, what Johnny is stating. But it just made me curious.

In the States, most court records are public domain and can be obtained by just about anyone. There are several websites available. Sometimes there is a fee, sometimes not, depending on the information being obtained.

Criminal cases might be sealed, but most are not. Juveniles convicted of a crime have sealed records, but parts of that could become public if the juvenile continues to commit crimes as an adult or if he/she commits murder or some other highly publicized crime.

Rape/sexual abuse victims may remain anonymous unless they choose to go public or the crime/case is already public before knowledge of a sexual offence has occurred (such as a child abduction). The court records can still be obtained with a "Jane Doe" or some other name used for the victim(s).

Civil court cases, such as Johnny's divorce, can be sealed. But when the cases are filed, the court documents are in public domain, it's the ruling/evidence/testimony that may get sealed at a later time.

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Civil Cases:
The Process
To begin a civil lawsuit in federal court, the plaintiff files a complaint with the court and “serves” a copy of the complaint on the defendant. The complaint describes the plaintiff’s damages or injury, explains how the defendant caused the harm, shows that the court has jurisdiction, and asks the court to order relief. A plaintiff may seek money to compensate for the damages, or may ask the court to order the defendant to stop the conduct that is causing the harm. The court may also order other types of relief, such as a declaration of the legal rights of the plaintiff in a particular situation.

Case Preparation
There may be “discovery,” where the litigants must provide information to each other about the case, such as the identity of witnesses and copies of any documents related to the case. The purpose of discovery is to prepare for trial by requiring the litigants to assemble their evidence and prepare to call witnesses. Each side also may file requests, or “motions,” with the court seeking rulings on the discovery of evidence, or on the procedures to be followed at trial.

Discovery may include a deposition, requiring a witness to answer questions about the case before the trial. The witness answers questions from the lawyer under oath, in the presence of a court reporter, who produces a word-for-word account called a transcript.

Settling Differences
To avoid the expense and delay of having a trial, judges encourage the litigants to try to reach an agreement resolving their dispute. The courts encourage the use of mediation, arbitration, and other forms of alternative dispute resolution, designed to produce a resolution of a dispute without the need for trial or other court proceedings. As a result, litigants often agree to a “settlement.” Absent a settlement, the court will schedule a trial. In a wide variety of civil cases, either side is entitled under the Constitution to request a jury trial. If the parties waive their right to a jury, then a judge without a jury will hear the case.

[Chocolat]

Thanks SnoopyDances.
I was confused about how Johnny's statement was obtained for publication.
I was under the impression that it was part of the sealed documents.

[jruoss]

The 2015 cut of London Fields is at 0% with 11 reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. Some of the reviews are funny but scathing. The last one by The Independent calls the film " car- crash filmmaking" and that all the performances are terrible except the good one by Johnny, who is uncredited. Johnny was also doing this film for free, l believe. Since Johnny doesn't stand to profit from London Fields, this will be the first Depp film I will have no problem skipping should it ever appear in a theater.

Well I know I'm off the lawsuit topic here, but in the context of everything that happened with AH, and how generally shaky London Fields sounds, and the notion that Johnny only did a bit part for free, it'd probably be better if it never does get an official release... Unfortunately that's not going to erase AH from The Rum Diary...

[SnoopyDances]

Thanks SnoopyDances.
I was confused about how Johnny's statement was obtained for publication.
I was under the impression that it was part of the sealed documents.

I assume his statements from the sealed divorce case have been used in the Sun case as part of the initial filing or as part of his deposition, thus unsealing that part of the case.

I could be totally wrong, too.

[Ragdoll]

Thanks SnoopyDances.
I was confused about how Johnny's statement was obtained for publication.
I was under the impression that it was part of the sealed documents.

I assume his statements from the sealed divorce case have been used in the Sun case as part of the initial filing or as part of his deposition, thus unsealing that part of the case.

I could be totally wrong, too.

Is that the whole point of the court case then?

I wonder if anything else will come out that will help prove his innocence

[meeps]

Yes, thanks a billion for that explanation, Snoopy
But does anybody knows, if the U.K. has the same rules for access to court documents?

[SnoopyDances]

Yes, thanks a billion for that explanation, Snoopy
But does anybody knows, if the U.K. has the same rules for access to court documents?

Not sure how much of this applies to Johnny's case, but this is what I found on the UK side.

The Civil Procedure Rules
CPR 5.4C allows certain documents filed at court to be accessed by non-parties (ie. those not involved in the proceedings). Whether a request requires the court's permission or not will depend on the type of document that the non-party is seeking to obtain.

CPR 5.4C(1) entitles non-parties to access statements of case (eg. Particulars of Claim, Defences and Replies) without the permission of the court. However, a party to the proceedings or any person identified may apply for an order restricting access (CPR 5.4C(4)) to documents. Such applications are usually made where the documents to be filed contain sensitive or confidential information.

Access to documents other than statements of case is governed by CPR 5.4C(2), which entitles a non-party to obtain a copy of any other document filed by a party or communications between the court and a party or another person, only with the permission of the court. As such, any documents filed on the record of the court fall within the scope of CPR 5.4C(2).

Documents filed on the record of the court and which are read, or treated as read, are subject to a default position in favour of the principle of open justice where the applicant requesting them has a legitimate interest. The Court must balance this principle against any harm that may arise to other parties' legitimate interests when deciding whether to grant permission for that document to be accessed.

[meeps]

Thank you ever so much for finding that for us So under certain circumstances the newspapers can get access quite legally ... Great

[justintime]

Does anyone know if the actual court/trial date for the Depp v. The Sun (?) lawsuit has been set? There’s so much flying around, it would have one believe the trial has come and gone. Has it? If so, when was it? What is it that Johnny has “won”? Everything and then some, if I had my wish . . .

I’m very confused at this point. Seems we have a long way to go in resolving this suit (not to mention the Bloom suit, the nuisance suit with the bodyguards, and the COL location manager suit!) all with September 7th (City of Lies premier in NY) fast approaching.