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Unread post by justintime » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:08 am

Can a witness be recalled to the stand at any point during the trial?
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Unread post by Newt » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:10 am

Wallis can't tweet any further, he's been called away on something else.

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:21 am

@lucycottersky

https://twitter.com/lucycottersky?ref_s ... r%5Eauthor

Also apparently reporting.

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Unread post by justintime » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:52 am

Mr. Sherborne is not correct. This was Johnny’s second marriage.

Hotel bill, including charges for the suite and the damages, totaled ~ $10,000. Damages alone were nowhere even close to $10,000.

“You are lying”, lawyer to JD. No denial, no clarification. . .
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Unread post by Newt » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:57 am

Wow, Johnny just said she's a diagnosed borderline personality.

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Unread post by stroch » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:08 am

newt, justintime,
Where else are you following? Lucy* Cotter does not have either bit of your information.
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Unread post by Newt » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:12 am

It's in the witness statements filed there:

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Unread post by stroch » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:14 am

^^Thanks
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Unread post by justintime » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:29 am

Re: marriage




Re: “You’re lying”



Re: $10,000 hotel bill - implied to be cost of damages only when it was actually the cost of renting the suite plus the damages assessed - several exchanges, no clarification but we have read about this forever

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Unread post by Lbock » Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:03 pm

Re taking drugs with Marilyn Manson, JD said not since being with AH, the barrister immediately said "you're lying"

Brought up exchanges with Paul Bettany and JD admited he gave him drugs, and they did drugs together

Brought up and read a letter to Elton John from JD regarding Elton helping him with sobriety. John had been sober 100 days. I don't know when that ended. It wasn't in any context that I saw

Brought up texts with Vanessa (or could be his sister) about hiring a sex working. Johnny said it was a joke. The Barrister kept asking and he was getting inpatient and more or less said, you can keep asking but my answer isn't going to change. It was a joke

Mentioned a Woman he casually dated before and again after AH.

He was drilled on a text exchange he had regarding the use of Cannabis when she was 13. (keeping in mind the life she was living, already modeling and being exposed to an industry most of our children would never know)

Here is an account that was tweeting - but not religiously so some context is lost in my opinion
https://twitter.com/lucycottersky?s=20

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Unread post by Ruby Begonia » Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:52 pm

Lucy was probably being circumspect with her tweets from Court because she was compiling them into this article for her employer, SkyNews:



In an ealier news story today by Sky/Lucy, she wrote that AH donated all of the $7 million to charity along with some other unproven media statements that keep being lazily repeated, revealing herself as not the most thorough fact-checker.

Johnny's barrister Sherborne as quoted in another Sky News report today -
"Either Ms Heard's allegations are true, in all their various forms now, and therefore Mr Depp has chosen to launch and pursue a lengthy libel claim despite knowing that the article which forms the subject matter of the claim is completely true."

"Or, as we say, Ms Heard has concocted them, embellishing and adding to them over the years."

If this is found to be the case, Mr Sherborne said, it means Depp "is right in seeking vindication before this court from a hugely influential newspaper that sought to act as judge (and jury) by endorsing and convicting him in relation to Ms Heard's allegations, not to mention demanding an end to his career as the punishment he supposedly deserved".

He continued: "You might be forgiven for wondering why would Mr Depp put himself through all of this process otherwise, ie if he were in fact guilty.

"That is the determination for this court. Mr Depp is either guilty of being a wife beater for having assaulted his ex-wife on numerous occasions, causing the most appalling injuries, or he has been very seriously and wrongly accused."

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:24 pm

I love how Amber showed up holding hands with her sister and meeting her girlfriend at the door. Her PR was greeting the press inside one of the room. She is trying to make it look like she is a defendant when in fact she is a witness. Not sure if the blonde is the girlfriend or not but she isn't wearing a face mask like she should be doing.

They look like three of the Manson family girls heading to the trial. :biglaugh:

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Unread post by Ruby Begonia » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:57 pm

:agreesign: :rotflmao:
A report said the 3 in the pic are Whitney, AH and AH's new "sister" aka atty Jennifer Robinson. The gf Butti was waiting for them at the door.

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Unread post by Lbock » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:45 pm

Ruby Begonia wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:57 pm
:agreesign: :rotflmao:
A report said the 3 in the pic are Whitney, AH and AH's new "sister" aka atty Jennifer Robinson. The gf Butti was waiting for them at the door.
She was walking with off to the side of them, filming
https://dailymail.co.uk/video/newsalert ... Court.html

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Unread post by In-too-Depp » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:49 pm



I decided to divorce Amber Heard when she defecated in our bed: Johnny Depp calls his ex-wife a 'narcissistic sociopath' who attacked HIM and denies ever hitting her at blockbuster libel court showdown

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Article by Vivek Chaudhary & Rory Tingle
7th July 2020

Johnny Depp today claimed he decided to divorce Amber Heard after she defecated in their marital bed 'as a prank' as he denied hitting her and said that she had abused him throughout their marriage.

The Hollywood legend, 57, is suing The Sun for labeling him a 'wife beater' and today branded those accusations 'sick and completely untrue' at a long-awaited blockbuster libel trial at the High Court in London.

But the most sensational revelation from Depp was that he decided to divorce Heard after faeces was left in their bed.

In a written statement, the actor said Heard or 'possibly one of her friends' was responsible for the incident, but claimed she dismissed it as 'just a harmless prank', and he said it was the final straw in their deteriorating marriage.

Today, he took to the stand to deny ever hitting Heard, as a series of newspaper stories alleged, and said it was 'inconceivable' that he would ever hit a woman, citing his Southern upbringing and saying he considers chivalry 'very important'.

He said: 'It is a strong and central part of my moral code that I would never strike a woman, under any circumstances, at any time. I find it simply inconceivable and it would never happen.'

While denying attacking Heard he also launched a blistering attack on her, accusing her of being a 'calculating, narcissistic sociopath' who married him to further her career.

His defence reeled off a string of incidents in which she had allegedly attacked him throughout their marriage including when she threw a vodka bottle at him, severing his finger, in Australia in 2015.

Depp also cited another incident in which she 'repeatedly' punched him in the face on a private jet in 2014 and claimed that she punched him again as he fled to the toilet.

In contrast, the actress' lawyers painted Depp as a domestic abuser who repeatedly attacked her when he was drunk or high on drugs.

In other developments during the dramatic opening session -

Depp accused Heard of being a calculating, narcissistic sociopath who married him to progress own career;
Said Heard once told his former head of security, Mr Jerry Judge, that the actor was a 'fat old man' and 'she did not know why she married me';
Star insisted he was never violent, but admitted to trying 'every kind of drug known to man very young age';
He spoke about the abuse he had suffered during his childhood, and said drugs helped deal with 'pain';
Admitted to taking drugs with Marilyn Manson 'twice' and another time with Avengers star Paul Bettany;
Recalled how friend River Phoenix tragically died of a heroin overdose at his nightclub in West Hollywood;
Remembered 'trashing' hotel where he was staying with Kate Moss in 1994, landing him with a $10,000 bill;
In 1999, Depp said he assaulted photographers to protect then-partner, Vanessa Paradis, who was pregnant;
Claimed to spend 'much' more than £24,000 a month on wine but said Elton John helped him to go straight;
Referred to Vanessa Paradis as the 'pain the a**e French ex albatross';
Depp's lawyer alleged that Heard had 'two extra-marital affairs' or 'extra-relationship affairs' with Elon Musk and James Franco;
Meanwhile, Heard's lawyer revealed messages in which he called himself 'the monster' - which she claimed was his 'drunken alter-ego';
Denied 'any physical altercation' with a crew member he was accused of attacking in 2017 on the set of his film, City Of Lies.

Depp on Amber Heard:

Depp started his account of his relationship with Heard by describing how he first met her when she auditioned for The Rum Diary, and later reconnected with her when they were promoting the film.

In one of his witness statements filed as part of his libel case against The Sun's publisher, News Group Newspapers (NGN), Depp said: 'She was then extremely friendly to me and keen to tell me about the break-up with her former partner that she had recently gone through.

'If I had known then what I know now, I would have seen the red flag warning signs, but I did not. She was beautiful, seemingly incredibly interested in me and my work, and I fell for it. She bombed me with what appeared to be love.
Johnny Depp in his own words as he takes the stand in libel trial

Depp on his drug-fuelled childhood:

'My experience of alcohol and stimulants began at a very young age'

'I remember my mother used to ask me to get her nerve pills. Around the age of 11 it dawned on me that these pills calm your nerves and I brought them home and took one. That began what was the only way to numb the pain'

'Every kind of drug known by man I'd tried' by age 14

Asked whether he had taken drugs with Marilyn Manson: 'Yes. Twice, maybe'

Depp on his heroes:

'Hunter S. Thompson was an idol of mine. I believe he has a very famous quote that says I don't condone the use of drugs or alcohol to anyone but they've always worked for me'

'Keith Richards has been a role model for me. He's one of my favourite guitarists and a great role model'

'I have always been interested in the counter-culture and many literary heroes of mine, including Chaucer, who was an opium addict, and Thomas De Quincey, author of 'Confessions of an English Opium Eater', were into this subject'

Depp on his 'anger problems'

'I don't [have anger problems]. I was angry, doesn't mean I have anger problems'

After being asked about a hotel room he trashed while girlfriend Kate Moss slept: 'Rather than assaulting a human being I assaulted a couch'

Asked about a clip of him smashing cupboard doors around Heard: 'I was violent with some cupboards'

Depp on his alcohol addiction

Asked whether it was 'nonsense' that he spent more than $30,000 a month on wine while with Ms Paradis because it was 'more than that': 'It was'

'I would definitely say that towards the end of my relationship with Ms Paradis, the mother of my children, it was a very painful time... I was more than likely trying to numb myself'

Depp on getting sober:

In an email to Elton John in 2012: 'My dearest Elton, 100 f****** days of clarity for an old reprobate t**t like me. No one would ever have believed it possible but for a select few, most importantly you

'I would have been swallowed up by the monster were it not for you'

Depp on his own fame:

'It's a very confusing thing because you become a product and your name no longer sounds the way it did when you were growing up... When I speak my own name it sounds foreign to me'

'When you are trying to figure out what it's all about, when success and notoriety and all these things come to you and you don't quite understand why you have them and you don't feel very worthy, it's very confusing'

Depp on his violent upbringing:

'The best way that I can explain it was that when I was going to have a baby back in 1998 [with partner Vanessa Paradis], one of my promises was that I would raise my child in the exact opposite manner that I was raised'

'It was not a particularly stable or safe home life, there was a lot of unpleasantness in the house'

'I'm well aware that there's been a lot of pain the way I was raised'.
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'It was not until much later that I understood that she had an agenda, namely to get married to me in order to progress her own career and/or to benefit financially, and she knew how to bring it about.

'For example, at the time, she repeatedly told me how much she admired my films; however, later in our relationship she admitted that she had never seen any of my films. She knew what she wanted and I was an easy target.'

Depp said their time together was 'incredibly unhappy', adding: 'She is a calculating, diagnosed borderline personality; she is sociopathic; she is a narcissist; and she is completely emotionally dishonest.

'I am now convinced that she came into my life to take from me anything worth taking, and then destroy what remained of it.'

Depp said the pair sought the help of a marriage counsellor who he says confirmed to him that Heard had a 'borderline, toxic narcissistic personality disorder and is a sociopath'.
Depp on his 'rage-filled fights' with Heard

According to Depp's statement, Heard 'continuously belittled' him and called him a 'fat old man'. He said he found it 'devastating and heartbreaking' to hear Heard call him a 'horrible father'.

In addition to the alleged verbal abuse, Depp accused Amber Heard of attacking him, and claimed she repeatedly punching him in the face and severing his finger by throwing a vodka bottle at him.

In one of his witness statements filed as part of his libel case against The Sun's publisher, News Group Newspapers (NGN), the actor said 'rage-filled violent incidents on planes were common with Amber'.

Depp said the pair were on a private chartered flight in late 2014 or early 2015 when Heard became 'verbally aggressive'. He said she called him a 'pussy' and 'spineless' for 'running away' from fights with her.

'Then she became physically violent and repeatedly punched me in the face. As I moved towards the back of the plane to get away from her, she followed me into the plane's bedroom and punched me again in the face and the head.

'I pushed her away from me, onto the bed. I then grabbed a pillow and locked myself in the bathroom, where I slept for the duration of the flight,' he wrote in his statement.

Depp described a period of time in Australia in March 2015 when he says Heard severed his finger - an injury which she says came about after he smashed a telephone into a wall.

'Amber severed my finger with the second of two thrown vodka bottles at me in the early afternoon of Sunday March 8. Amber claims this was on the second day of a 'three-day hostage situation',' he said.

Depp added: 'Amber claims that during these three days, I subjected her to a variety of what sounds like torture and other abuse. These sick claims are completely untrue.'

Depp said Heard did not sustain any injuries at all that weekend, while he meanwhile sustained 'grievous' injuries including the severed finger 'and a cigarette stubbed out on my cheek'.

He said that at some point after she threw the bottle that cut off his finger tip, she put a lit cigarette out on his cheek.

'The severity of these injuries brought about the personal realisation of the severity of the abuse that Ms Heard had inflicted upon me for so long. I couldn't believe that we had come to this. I wondered what more she could do to me.'

The court also heard of an incident where Heard shouted at Depp in 2015.

Depp's barrister David Sherborne read an extract from a tape in which Heard said to her husband: 'You got hit... but I did not punch you. I did not f****** deck you. I f****** was hitting you'.

Heard then went on to say 'you are a f****** baby', to which 57-year-old Depp said: 'Because you start physical fights.' Heard replied: 'You are such a baby. Grow the f*** up.'

Depp explained that both he and Heard recorded conversations during their relationship.

In her witness statement, Heard had said that she recorded their conversations 'to remind Johnny of what he would do when using drugs and alcohol because he wouldn't remember, or deny what he had said'.

Lawyers for The Sun allege that Depp's violent outbursts were driven by alcohol and drugs, which left Heard with injuries and in fear for her life. They maintain that this justifies their article.
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