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Unread post by Lbock » Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:01 am

So I think important to find out when this declaration was prepared.

My guess is that Samantha McMillen came to the condo earlier in the day with her outfit, etc. saw her with no makeup. She appeared fine. At whatever time, Samantha left and was to meet her at the studio

Melanie arrives to do the makeup. At some point the hair stylist. Melanie never mentions Raquel. (But amber said after the fight the first thing she remembers is seeing Raquel and Melanie, no mention of hair guy). I’m thinking at this point, Melanie had no idea Samantha has been there and saw Amber

They leave to go to the studio. Samantha mentions she saw Raquel and over heard them saying something about getting the photos on amber’s computer. Melanie doesn’t mention Raquel at all, again

I think Melanie believed amber was being abused back in 2016 and she was willing to lie for her to her to help in the divorce against the monster. And amber promised they’d never go to court.

So now Melanie wants nothing to do with the U.K. trial. She agreed in December to do the deposition in VA, etc but I think they were convinced it was going to be dismissed. UK says this is hearsay and they need her so file an exparte motion in March to compel her to testify April 1 in LA. Melanie refuses to voluntarily testify for UK. COVID happens. March 23 is to be the trial. She isolates in Florida Keys and refuses to allow UK Sun to serve her lawyer on her behalf. She fully expects to wait out the trial in Florida and never testify. Then, alas, it is postponed.

So when did Melanie give this declaration. Had to be before June when Adam released Savannah’s declaration debunking her. (Maybe that’s why he released it) I can’t believe she’d go on record and never mention seeing Samantha after this was released. Also, the cctv of her actions after may 21 weren’t known yet

Thoughts?

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:35 pm

You are good Lbock!

I like your theory that Melanie may have believed AH when at some point she said she was being abused.

It all comes down to why she doesn't want to answer questions. What all of this has taught me is how difficult it is to lie under the cross examination of clever lawyers. It doesn't matter how straight you have your story - you cannot prep for the details you will be asked. In the depositions where we've seen JD, he certainly seems to be truthful. He says when he cannot remember or doesn't know. Takes his time to recall, gives full answers and his body language is consistent with when people recollect events.

You see AH struggling to keep her stories straight - and her personality is such that she just ploughs on - and elaborates more and more. And don't even start me on the body language.

Raquel was something else. She had to think hard and struggled even to give straight answers to very straightforward questions eg how her declaration came about.

Only a theory of course because there is so much we don't know, but your time line looks good (certainly approaching the UK trial) - Melanie presumably does not want her testimony held up against others (Samantha, the property manager) - she does not want to have her testimony probed by JD's barristers, and she presumably does not want to answer questions about what happened after May 21.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:25 pm

Lbock, do you have the declarations of Melanie and Samantha?
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Unread post by Lbock » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:26 pm

Ok. THR provides pdf uploads of recent court documents referred to in their article

https://www.scribd.com/user/317616792/THROnline
(Melanie Declaration here)

(Samantha’s here https://www.dropbox.com/s/vmgyex0bu6sq8 ... n.pdf?dl=0 )
“on July 18, 2019, which took place after Ms. Inglessis
had provided Ms. Heard’s US counsel with a declaration ”
(That was before the ruling on the venue change/dismissal That was ruled July 25. No dismissal and her declaration was before that. Before Kaplan came on board)

Excerpt re Melanie’s declaration as stated by AH UK lawyer
To refute the allegation that she never spoke with Ms. Heard’s English
3 barrister, Petitioners obtained a declaration from that barrister, Jennifer Robinson.
4 [See Declaration of Jennifer Robinson filed concurrently herewith (“Robinson
5 Decl.”).] Ms. Robinson states that she spoke with Ms. Inglessis on two occasions.
6 The first was a telephone call on July 18, 2019, which took place after Ms. Inglessis
7 had provided Ms. Heard’s US counsel with a declaration that Ms. Robinson was
8 given to read. [Robinson Decl., ¶4, 5; Exh. 1.] The second time was on August 13,
9 2019. [Id., ¶6.] Ms. Robinson’s declaration provides a considerable amount of
10 additional detail about these conversations.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:23 pm

Thanks. I'm trying to read it and will respond more later but first off, James Corden show tapes in the afternoons, so right there we know the dec. is a lie. Melanie said when she arrived she saw writing that JD did "that night" and alleged injuries and then they went to studio.

"As of this writing, odds are you'll be told to show up at CBS Television City at around 3 or 3:30 PM. But it pays to arrive earlier, since TV shows always give out more tickets than they have seats, on the theory that some people won't show up. So if you're not early, you risk not getting into the taping."

https://www.seeingstars.net/Tapings/JamesCorden.shtml

P.S. It was filed on May 29, 2020. The date stamp across the top shows the date of the filing. Not sure when it was filed but she wasn't friends with AH for all that long. She only met AH in 2015.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:08 pm

The statements of Melanie and Samantha are two completely different stories. Melanie's statement makes no sense, imo.

Melanie says she was supposed to go bowling with Amber (since when does Amber bowl?) the night before the James Corden show but Amber said no because there was an alleged "bad" fight with Johnny. So the NEXT day she goes to the apartment to apply make up (where a hair stylist was also there) and sees writing JD did "that night" and alleged injuries. Then the three of them leave to go to the studio but the James Corden show doesn't tape at night. Ok.....

Samantha says she was with Amber most of the "day and night" doing her hair and make up the day of the James Corden show and saw no evidence of injury, which would include a clump of missing hair.

That pic Melanie provided as an exhibit was most likely not taken by her and she never says that she took it. As a matter of fact, she never said that she took ANY pics. The pic was provided to her to use.

Anybody know if the hair stylist that was supposed to have been there got subpoenaed or deposed?
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Unread post by Lbock » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:13 pm

ForeverYoung wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:23 pm
P.S. It was filed on May 29, 2020. The date stamp across the top shows the date of the filing. Not sure when it was filed but she wasn't friends with AH for all that long. She only met AH in 2015.
Melanie’s declaration was taken sometime prior to July 18 2019

It is now an exhibit of a larger filing by NGN, an opposition/motion to compel her to testify. That larger motion was filed on May 29, 2020. So all the pages including exhibits of the larger motion will have that stamped across the top

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Unread post by Lbock » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:18 pm

“Much of the day and evening” “throughout the day in good light, no makeup...”
From Samantha’s declaration

I interpret it now as two separate times if the day. But we will see. She saw her at the penthouse in good light no makeup. Then she saw her again in the evening at the studio. I don’t think she was there with Melanie and the hairstylist. That’s the only explanation I can come up with that their declarations are complete opposites, Melanie must now have known Samantha saw her earlier that day with no makeup—it’s really interpretation and we will see.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:45 pm

Yes, but Melanie implies she was there at night and they wen to the studio the tapings for the show are in the afternoon. This is what doesn't make any sense to me.
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Unread post by Chocolat » Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:39 pm

ForeverYoung wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:08 pm
The statements of Melanie and Samantha are two completely different stories. Melanie's statement makes no sense, imo.

Melanie says she was supposed to go bowling with Amber (since when does Amber bowl?) the night before the James Corden show but Amber said no because there was an alleged "bad" fight with Johnny. So the NEXT day she goes to the apartment to apply make up (where a hair stylist was also there) and sees writing JD did "that night" and alleged injuries. Then the three of them leave to go to the studio but the James Corden show doesn't tape at night. Ok.....

Samantha says she was with Amber most of the "day and night" doing her hair and make up the day of the James Corden show and saw no evidence of injury, which would include a clump of missing hair.

That pic Melanie provided as an exhibit was most likely not taken by her and she never says that she took it. As a matter of fact, she never said that she took ANY pics. The pic was provided to her to use.

Anybody know if the hair stylist that was supposed to have been there got subpoenaed or deposed?

Seems like Samantha styled Amber's hair and did her makeup. Was there supposed to be a separate hair stylist too?
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Unread post by Lbock » Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:53 pm

The guy who did her hair for Corden Show. Adir Abergel



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Unread post by Chocolat » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:28 pm

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:14 pm

I am reading Amber's declaration right now and it never mentions the hair stylist being at the apt. She only says Melanie and Raquel were there BUT Melanie never mentions anything at ALL of Raquel being there either. So strange...nothing makes any sense.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:27 pm

Also, in her dec. Amber says she contacted her publicist to say she might not be able to make the appearance on the Late Show "which was scheduled for the following day" because of her alleged injuries but she wouldn't know how bad she would look until the following morning. Then says she asked Melanie and Raquel to help her cover up her bruises with make up so she could make it to the Late Show. So....did that mean she slept in make up all night and never took a shower? Did they stay there all night? What about the stylist that was supposed to have been there? Melanie said her and the stylist (whom Amber never mentions) fixed up Amber and took her to the studio. I think I'm done trying to figure this out because these decs are really screwed up very which way to Sunday. :banghead: :banghead2:
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Unread post by Chocolat » Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:06 pm

:agreesign: Too many inconsistencies and lack of truthful information of who, what, where and when. :perplexed3:
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