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Unread post by Inquiring Minds » Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:11 pm

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All the time I’ve been posting here (and I lurked for a few months before that) and I’ve never looked beyond the lawsuits thread!? I have just been alerted to the Daily Chat thread (by SnoopDances, many thanks) – a far more appropriate venue for OT posts. I have provided an update over there to spare our overworked moderators more effort on this thread.

Suffice to say I have only been able to skim for the last few days – mostly light entertainment, but I did visit some TUG, TheRealLauraB, and a few lawtubers I first encountered during the VA trial (on the LegalBytes Youtube channel). Things don’t appear to have slowed down, so I have some catching up to do.

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Inquiring Minds wrote:
Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:11 pm
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All the time I’ve been posting here (and I lurked for a few months before that) and I’ve never looked beyond the lawsuits thread!? I have just been alerted to the Daily Chat thread (by SnoopDances, many thanks) – a far more appropriate venue for OT posts. I have provided an update over there to spare our overworked moderators more effort on this thread.

Suffice to say I have only been able to skim for the last few days – mostly light entertainment, but I did visit some TUG, TheRealLauraB, and a few lawtubers I first encountered during the VA trial (on the LegalBytes Youtube channel). Things don’t appear to have slowed down, so I have some catching up to do.
Is it true that AH is still being investigated in Australia?

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Unread post by Inquiring Minds » Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:36 pm

Judymac asked:
Is it true that AH is still being investigated in Australia?
Apologies, my coverage of news has been patchy the last week, and for fear of appearing to have not researched thoroughly, I've keep things light since I started posting.

I did notice one mainstream news video raised the investigation, but otherwise I think TUG and maybe Popcorned Planet are the only ones with videos. I haven't actually seen any of them yet, but I will get back to you with any links I find in the local press (and provide reviews).

One local press entry that I haven't seen posted here yet I spotted while out of the loop but is, imo, worth reading. Video is sensationalist "Amber loves Johnny" trash though.

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and another

I thought the thank you statement issued by the recipient was a little light on any mention of JD, but the problem may rest with with the media outlet. I just don't trust them to report accurately anymore.

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Unread post by Lbock » Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:53 am

ForeverYoung wrote:
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I think her “supplemental motion” on Juror 15 was to distract from the insurance lawsuit

She sat on that stand and said she couldn’t donate because she had to pay all these legal fees. She absolutely perjured herself-she knew full well that woman that was with her every single day was from Travelers Insurance and they were paying all her legal fees. (And the lawsuit Travelers versus New York Marine started in July 2021)

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Unread post by Inquiring Minds » Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:06 am

Judymac asked:
Is it true that AH is still being investigated in Australia?
Having done a little quick research, my take on this is yes, no, maybe.

AFAIK The investigation into AH is still open. She has already pleaded guilty to smuggling the dogs and perjury over the issue (I believe this was for supplying false documents, not lying on the stand). She can't face further charges over this. What came into play during the UK trial (particularly Kate James and Kevin Murphys' testimony) was evidence that AH succeeded in her attempt to suborn perjury in others to further her bio-security crime.

The most noise comes from Barnaby Joyce, who has been trading on the issue for years. While he retained his seat after the last election, the Coalition government lost. He had lost leadership of his party (The Nationals) shortly before the election and had already been demoted from "Deputy Prime Minister" to "Member for New England". But on a local morning show he said she is unlikely to be extradited for perjury. He is probably correct in this respect. He may be the most vocal, but his motives are more likely to maintain political relevance. With his minor coalition party now out of power, having gone to the election under his replacement, he will be leveraging the election loss to regain party leadership. Interestingly, AH's new dog is called Barnaby (a deliberate troll). He inferred he wanted her in jail by offering to watch her dog for her if she couldn't for any period of time.

But the real issue appears to by the extradition of Julian Assange (Australian founder of Wikileaks) from the UK to the USA. Assange is being represented by Geoffrey Robertson of Doughty Street Chambers infamy. Our recently toppled conservative government (at least) tacitly supported his extradition. The newly elected left-wing government favours his exoneration and return to Australia. Most of his appeals have been exhausted. There is speculation that if the new government threatens extradition of AH, they can do a prisoner exchange. If this is the case, they may be disappointed to find she is not that important or valuable. It is also unlikely to lead to her being extradited (imo).

The FBI has apparently been approached for assistance. Probably through a local office in Australia (and probably in Canberra). We also know that Adam is in oz. He could no doubt be be helping with these inquiries also. There is, imo, also the possibility that the Queensland state government is being approached regarding AH's DV assaults against JD. I was just looking at some government DV papers from 2012 indicating that the police must raise mandatory DV charges in QLD if they believed it to have happened. That was in force since 2009. Laws have changed since, but (I suspect) to be more vigilant, not less.

The MSM and government politicians are functionally aligned with AH, although few will now even indirectly defame JD. Instead they switch to familiar mantras. A number of them have decried open coverage of Australian trials (its like a coliseum, a circus, misogyny etc). Strong political forces both inside and outside government are working hard to portray AH as a victim of both JD and the judicial system. Whilst the majority of Australians I know are TeamDepp, the press and serving politicians will not want to be seen targeting AH.

On the biosecurity side, Indonesia is currently dealing with a major outbreak of Foot and Mouth Disease (cattle), and perjury charges could serve as proxies for a second shot at the dog smuggling. Australia may want to make an example of her, but I find this also pretty unlikely.

If anything happens, I suspect it would be extradition over the suborning of perjury but DV charges would be laid once she arrived.

So yes, things are ongoing and an attempt at extradition may be raised, but I suspect they are neither serious or likely to succeed. It may happen however if DV charges are to be laid.

To add a bizarre (and totally terrifying) angle - if DV charges were laid, this could allow AH to retry the whole hoax one more time - this time in Australia

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Unread post by myfave » Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:59 pm

I don’t understand why Travelers would pay for all her legal fees. Can you explain in terms I can understand.
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Unread post by Lbock » Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:04 pm

myfave wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:59 pm
I don’t understand why Travelers would pay for all her legal fees. Can you explain in terms I can understand.
Hope this helps

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Unread post by myfave » Sun Jul 10, 2022 5:06 pm

Thank you, I see that now. :rosegirl:
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Unread post by SnoopyDances » Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:42 pm

:thanks!: Inquiring Minds and LBock!

She's going to need Aquaman to swim out of this swamp!

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Unread post by SnoopyDances » Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:46 pm

Amber said, under oath on the stand, that she couldn't fulfill her charity pledges because she had to pay legal fees due to Johnny's lawsuits.
1. She didn't pay legal fees, the insurance company did. Perjury?
2. Her lawyer said similar in closing arguments and knew it was not true. Could be in trouble? Ethics and misconduct regulations
3. She bought the insurance policies prior to the Op-Ed and UK trial
4. AH has two different policies with 2 different insurance companies (Travelers and NYM) that cover defamation, which one pays what? Neither feels they are obligated.
5. Travelers: Role in defense during trial? Representative present at trial with AH.
6. Travelers responsible for Kaplan and Elaine fees ($6 m +)


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Unread post by Inquiring Minds » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:29 am

SnoopyDances wrote:
:thanks!: Inquiring Minds and LBock!

She's going to need Aquaman to swim out of this swamp!
I think it was on a Nate the Lawyer's video that a commenter said "And this is someone that convinced us all she could breathe underwater"
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Unread post by Judymac » Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:09 am

Inquiring Minds wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:06 am
Judymac asked:
Is it true that AH is still being investigated in Australia?
Having done a little quick research, my take on this is yes, no, maybe....
Thank you, for the explanation.

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Unread post by Lbock » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:56 am

There is a final trial conference scheduled tomorrow for Brooks v Depp

I posted a new video which includes Brooks statement of his case. If you are interested

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:24 pm

SnoopyDances wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:46 pm
Amber said, under oath on the stand, that she couldn't fulfill her charity pledges because she had to pay legal fees due to Johnny's lawsuits.
1. She didn't pay legal fees, the insurance company did. Perjury?
2. Her lawyer said similar in closing arguments and knew it was not true. Could be in trouble? Ethics and misconduct regulations
3. She bought the insurance policies prior to the Op-Ed and UK trial
4. AH has two different policies with 2 different insurance companies (Travelers and NYM) that cover defamation, which one pays what? Neither feels they are obligated.
5. Travelers: Role in defense during trial? Representative present at trial with AH.
6. Travelers responsible for Kaplan and Elaine fees ($6 m +)

It would not be the first time she lied to the judge. She told the judge that the ex's wicked paid for help assistant was not in the courtroom when in fact she was sitting right behind the lawyers and there is video footage to prove it.
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