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Unread post by Lbock » Fri May 07, 2021 9:12 pm

myfave wrote:
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Can someone explain to me why the body cam of the LAPD the night of the 911 call doesn’t show Amber on it?
She is sitting on the couch next to Raquel.

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Unread post by myfave » Fri May 07, 2021 10:29 pm

Lbock wrote:
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Fri May 07, 2021 9:09 pm
Can someone explain to me why the body cam of the LAPD the night of the 911 call doesn’t show Amber on it?
She is sitting on the couch next to Raquel.
I’m confused why he isn’t in the body cam footage. And why Amber didn’t tell police of the so called abuse? Was this the second time the cops showed up?
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Unread post by RumLover » Sat May 08, 2021 12:16 am

myfave wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 10:29 pm
I’m confused why he isn’t in the body cam footage. And why Amber didn’t tell police of the so called abuse? Was this the second time the cops showed up?
What "he" are you referring to?
If you mean Johnny, then he had left before the 911 call.
The hoaxers didn't want JD involved at that point. If the police spoke to Depp, then the AH lawyer could not send the "extortion letter" saying they would keep the matter private in return for apartments, vehicles, money etc. It suited their plans better to have a 911 call on record but then send the cops away. Also AH could not have an injury (makeup or self-inflicted) seen by the LAPD as they would insist on a medical examination and start an investigation which would mean no payout for silence.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Sat May 08, 2021 5:19 pm

The second set of police didn't seem to be too concerned, imo, because it seemed like the second call might have been a mistake and there was no sign of any kind of damage. Neither RP or AH said anything to them of abuse or destruction and they did no investigation because RP said everything was "good." I find this very strange for neither one of them to tell the second set of police about any of the alleged incidents or for AH to show them her alleged injury to her face to get it on record. Neither one of them even got off the couch to greet the police.
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Unread post by Granna » Sat May 08, 2021 6:04 pm

Hey: The Swiss media is now reporting the allegations with the investigations on AH. My niece, just texted me. She says the media is going at Heard's jugular. The male newsman said he hopes she is jailed. :lovehearts: :lovehearts:

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Unread post by RumLover » Sat May 08, 2021 7:14 pm

While I can't know what Amber and her lawyer were thinking in May 2016, the only plausible explanation I have is that their aim was to get the most money they could in a divorce as quickly as possible.
They used a promise and a threat (as seen in the extortion letter) that they would not publicly mention abuse if the agreement was signed in 72 hours.
If there was a police investigation, then the threat/offer would be null as the matter would be public. If Amber had shown any injuries, then the police would investigate. Even an investigation to learn the owner/resident of the apartment could cause JD to be interviewed and the plan undone. A medical examination might conflict with her story.
What the 911 call was meant to achieve, I don't quite know. Maybe it was needed as part of making the threat of public exposure real. They were smart enough to have it made by people not present who could later claim a misunderstanding not a false report if questioned.
What did they expect would happen when the LAPD arrived? Did they think they would decline to comment and the police would go away? Maybe. From Amber declaration 'When the police officers arrived, I told them “I decline to give any statement at this time as per the advice of my counsel.” ' Amber never gave a statement to police.
Amber must have been so sure that Johnny wanted to protect his privacy that he would agree to her demands, that she didn't even bother to hide away for 3 days. As the deadline approached and Johnny had not signed, they had to prepare for another plan, divorce after domestic violence which could be more money than standard no-pre-nup divorce.
I doubt that Amber would have kept an agreement to say nothing even if Johnny has signed in 72 hours. Just as she didn't keep the confidentiality of the divorce agreement after she had received the money.

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Sun May 09, 2021 3:51 am

RumLover I think your analysis is absolutely spot on. The only purpose of the 911 call must have been to have a record of a police visit on a report of DV to threaten to leak to the media.

It is possible that none of them realised what happens after a DV call, in post OJ Simpson LA. No way are the police going to just be turned away, the first set of officers clearly insisted on seeing AH; the second set - just barged in when Josh Drew tried to close the door to get the card.

If she had made a complaint of abuse, they would have insisted on her being examined medically.

I think the confusion of the 911 call being made twice was just a mistake, not being sure if the first one had gone through. I still don't know if iO genuinely knew the extent of the hoax for that night, and I used to think that he had just been spun a bunch of lies by AH and he believed them. But his very eloquent witness statement in London - to me at least - shows complicity. His engagement on social media and his answers in London (especially over his spat with JD, and hitting Rocky) were somewhat short of truthful, even if he was gullibly duped by AH.

If AH is being investigated, Rocky and Josh are also surely going to be in the same trouble? Josh Drew was so descriptive of the destruction - ooh and that silly statement that they hadn't cleared everything up and the second set of officers saw the mess. When people lie they think if they put in lots of details it sounds more plausible - because when you are telling the truth you can easily remember certain details (and they are checkable).

As long as AH had spun the line she used in her first disposition "I can't vouch for what the police saw but this is what happened ....." she was ok. But that body cam evidence is bad compared to the descriptions they gave and the photographs. Perjury and evidence tampering.

My only concern now is that if for some reason she gets investigated and the matter doesn't proceed - she has then once again got away with it.

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Unread post by Lbock » Mon May 10, 2021 8:18 am

Ben Wizner, of ACLU, gave a declaration sometime back in February 2021. I missed it. It has just resurfaced
He was to be deposed March 8 and provide documents (which do reference his declaration but don't attach a copy). Not sure where the declaration came from

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/s ... 4-2021.pdf

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Tue May 11, 2021 2:56 am

So I read his declaration last night, it was posted on twitter. Are we to understand that the ACLU did no due diligence whatsoever? They ignored her arrest record; statements of the police; the fact that no charges were filed? So this charity that is dedicated to justice and fairness to all took no account of justice or fairness? Well that's all particularly awkward in light of the body cam evidence. The ACLU and others can keep their heads down for now as the US media puts them and her under no scrutiny whatsoever despite what appears to be two investigations into her perjury but at some point it will have to say something.

AH I see from Instagram is continuing the 'business as usual' stance.

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Unread post by hollyberry » Wed May 12, 2021 8:46 am

So....she can get four years for perjury.
I hope she does. I hope they throw the book at this vile woman. Johnny has lost two roles he made his own, in Fantastic Beasts and POTC. He lost a libel case. He's had his reputation smeared and his career badly - possibly irretrievably - damaged by this creature's lies.

He should sue her.

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Unread post by Lbock » Wed May 12, 2021 12:41 pm

So just after Amber spends time and $$$ on filing motions to Join with IO's attempt to quash his Depp issued subpoena, HE HAS JUST WITHDRAWN IT! He and Depp team have reached an agreement as to what documents he will supply.

Seems a crack in the AH and IO team

Note (as I'm seeing some confusion on twitter). It doesn't mean IO has flipped sides.
It means he has agreed to some compromise with Depp team to provide documents & withdrew his quash request (only days after AH filed several motions to join in IO quash motion).
But it Seems AH is out of IO loop


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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed May 12, 2021 7:49 pm

That's interesting iO withdrew the motion to quash the subpoena. Let's see now if the ex does her own motion to quash now that she can't join in iO's motion.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed May 12, 2021 7:50 pm

Hey Nicol - how do you feel about Amber Heard now not being a gold digger??? :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

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Unread post by gipsyblues » Thu May 13, 2021 4:16 am

Thank you Lbock and ForeverYoung and thank you for your valuable work. I'm so proud of Johnny and everyone else who helps.
Wow, I'm glad that this time the German media reported and I have to admit that I reacted very anxiously .
It's important that we have independent journalists who don't accept bribes.
Appreciate the honor of your Job and report the truth. :worldhug:
Best wishes and love to Johnny and all of us. :namaste:

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Fri May 14, 2021 11:12 pm

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