The Lawsuits Thread

[Newt]

Perhaps but if THAT story is true and comes out (you know the one), then it ABSOLUTELY helps out, it makes Heard an even worse monster than you could possibly imagine. Heard now tweeting about the MM allegations, blood boiling, this is very shady.

[ForeverYoung]

New video up from Lost Beyond Pluto explaining the hearing for permission to appeal.

[Judymac]

Perhaps but if THAT story is true and comes out (you know the one), then it ABSOLUTELY helps out, it makes Heard an even worse monster than you could possibly imagine. Heard now tweeting about the MM allegations, blood boiling, this is very shady.

This is not going to help out with the Civil trial. These allegations will never be allowed to be put into the Civil Trial. The allegations against Amber Heard are serious criminal allegations. Questioning her about criminal allegations (accusations) in a civil trial would violate her right against self incrimination. Being a horrible person does not take away her right against self incrimination. She quite simply can not be questioned about a subject that might lead to her admitting that she committed a criminal act. That is the law. What we can hope for is that there is enough actual evidence that a prosecutor decides to bring criminal charges against her. A prosecutor would not consider a case that was based on hearsay. They would need evidence beyond people talking about it. Also, we don't know when this alleged incident happened. In order to bring criminal charges it would have to fall within the statute of limitations.

[AdeleAgain]

All valid points Judymac and unless this allegation solidifies in public there is probably little point in speculating. I find it interesting that Ryan hasn't deleted his tweet. He at least must be pretty sure of what he is saying.

[Judymac]

He must be pretty sure of himself or he is really dumb. Was he present during the alleged incident or is this hearsay? Where are all the other people who have firsthand knowledge of this criminal act? I think that it is a really bad idea to make criminal allegations against someone on social media Even of they are true, social media is not the right platform for these allegations. Trials are not conducted by social media opinions. If a prosecutor decided to prosecute her for these criminal acts she could claim that she could never get a fair trial because of all of the publicity. It would have been much better if Ryan Leone had contacted one of the attorney's with this information instead of posting it on Twitter. Maybe he did contact Johnny's attorney's but he still should not have posted it. I am going to assume that Ryan Leone is trying to help Johnny, but this could also completely backfire. Amber Heard has been crying about the treatment that Johnny fans (bots) have been giving her and this could help her. It is also interesting to note that Amber Heard's attorney's have not said anything about these allegations. I am sure that they know about them and are waiting for the right opportunity to address them.

[ForeverYoung]

It seems a video has surfaced of a Russian person describing how they have bots siging the petition to have the ex removed from Aquaman2. It really makes me wonder why somebody would do this and makes me think she could be the one behind the makiing of this video as a means of getting the petition shut down.


https://www.change.org/p/dc-entertainme ... u/28508017

[AdeleAgain]

It is getting ridiculous and desperate now. Of course any video of Russian bots isn't anything to do with Johnny or Adam.

WB don't need to look at the petition to see how unpopular she is - just do a search with a hashtag of her name.

It is very odd - she's very quiet on instagram (losing a regular number of followers each day) but then has a total meltdown on twitter. I suspect (I hope) that the charity issue is really very serious for her, reputationally but also legally. I've pondered this out loud before but I wonder what happens if you are shown to have committed perjury in a UK court. The only two cases I can think of were Jeffrey Archer who won a libel case but then went to prison because he won it by committing perjury; and another politician called Jonathan Aitken who was in the middle of a libel case but was lying - also went to prison. They were both British of course.

[Granna]

AdeleAgain: I understand that perjury is a very serious issue. Lying is just not acceptable. However, AH was a witness not the defendant. Would she receive punishment as a witness in the UK? It would definitely hurt her in the VA Trial.
Unfortunately, this really doesn't seem to move big names like WB and others does it? Her fall from grace, has not happened as fast as I thought it would given the current status of events unfolding

[AdeleAgain]

Granna you make an excellent point - she was a witness indeed not the defendant. I also recall Lost Beyond Pluto saying (please correct me if incorrect) that in fact AH was likely guilty of contempt of court.

I have quickly googled and found this - not read it all.

https://www.blakemorgan.co.uk/if-you-ar ... -of-court/

It initially talks about expert witnesses misleading courts. But these two sentences stood out to me:

"There is a great deal of trust placed on a witness. Putting forward a false statement, not caring about the truth, was usually almost as serious a contempt as telling a deliberate lie." (She deliberately lied.)

"The culpability of the witness who acted recklessly would be increased if they knew of the circumstances that cast doubt on the statement but nonetheless made it without caring whether it was true or false." (She more than knew the circumstances.)

You are right Granna it is all so frustrating. On the one hand she has been punished by the low regard in which she is held generally but the MSM continue to protect her; I doubt WB want to say anything at all unless they have to; and I remain baffled why on earth L'Oreal wants her anywhere near their products.

[Lbock]

If the schedule hasn't changed. IO Tillet is supposed to be deposed today via video link. Interesting, this weekend Amber and her cohorts were up in Joshua Tree (where he lives)

[Granna]

As Sherlock Holmes would say : "the game is a foot." I am sure Ben Chew (& Adam) are ready for it.

In reading AdeleAgain's reply to my post.
45% of the butt kissing media circus likes AH because she doesn't dress appropriately; another 45% REFUSE to believe a man can be a DV victim; the other 10% are sitting on the fence.

WB & LOREAL can't admit they are wrong.

Her outrageous behavior, demands, and subpoenas show how desperate and to what lengths she will go to destroy JD. AH underestimated the resilience of JD's fandom. We will protect if we can, support and be there for him. Many are fans, many are survivors of DV. WE stand by our own.

There was another individual in history who lied, did disgusting acts of inhumane treatment to others & believed they and their followers were superior to all and above the law. Just as AH and her minions feel about themselves.. (The ridiculous demands of Twitter, LAPD, and Disney show us that.)

AH is the " Delilah" for this generation. The other individual in history also AH, cruel, despicable, manipulative narcissistic, evil-minded and totally twisted - Adolf Hitler.

This of course, is my opinion. However, the similarities are scary.

[Judymac]

It is getting ridiculous and desperate now. Of course any video of Russian bots isn't anything to do with Johnny or Adam.

WB don't need to look at the petition to see how unpopular she is - just do a search with a hashtag of her name.

It is very odd - she's very quiet on instagram (losing a regular number of followers each day) but then has a total meltdown on twitter. I suspect (I hope) that the charity issue is really very serious for her, reputationally but also legally. I've pondered this out loud before but I wonder what happens if you are shown to have committed perjury in a UK court. The only two cases I can think of were Jeffrey Archer who won a libel case but then went to prison because he won it by committing perjury; and another politician called Jonathan Aitken who was in the middle of a libel case but was lying - also went to prison. They were both British of course.

I have to admit that all the accusations about Russian Bots makes me laugh. It is ridiculous. They are incredibly desperate.

[Moonbeam]

Finally reporting photoshopped dv abuse photos in The Sun

[AdeleAgain]

Lbock not on here but I saw on your twitter the list of deposition for VA. Very interesting.

So if on schedule, we've got iO, Tasya, Bianca and Whitney all this week. Hmmm wonder if iO (or any of them) can enlighten the CHLA on where their money is.

But more interesting than that are some of the past ones especially I notice Natasha Brooks who is still at the Art of Elysium and I think must be that "Tash" that's been referred to. I wonder if she corroborated what Jennifer Howell had to say. Although much of Jennifer's testimony was indeed hearsay - she didn't actually witness anything - she did witness Whitney's reaction to receiving the news of Johnny's finger injury. If she and one other could verify that it would be powerful.

Anyway back to the depositions - anyone know who Monroe Tinker is? I've found a possible match - a California based doctor. He was called by JD.

Ah I miss the Blast uploading these and spilling the beans.

But thanks Lbock.

[Granna]

AdeleAgain: I thought Tinker was a real estate agent? Or do have someone else in mind?