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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:13 pm

I hope Johnny gets granted the chance to appeal. :pray:
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Unread post by justintime » Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:08 pm

How far can Schillings, how far is Schillings willing to, go to get the judgement against their innocent client, Johnny Depp, rightfully reversed?







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Unread post by Lbock » Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:07 pm

I’m curious if this account Really knows something. I believe Shillings monitors our tweets so I’m sure they’ve seen

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Unread post by Someareborn » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:48 pm

Sideway question about Roberta Kaplan: its reported that she defended Weinstein, but wasn't that a legal battle about taxes/company issues and not about the sexual assault charges? Or, was she really defending him against the sexual assault charges?

I am far from being a fan of her, just asking your minds for context. Thanks!

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:50 am

Has everything just gone onto this thread - I was trying to find a Dior thread but can't. Anyway it was just to say - Johnny is all over London again. They've got a big campaign, alternating pictures of Johnny and Charlize Theron. Wonderful and very cheering to see.

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Unread post by Lbock » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:33 am

Very wonderful. Kaplan represented Weinstein over accusations of using donated money for himself.
Roberta Kaplan
Kaplan is a co-founder of the Time’s Up Legal Defense Fund, and has been a leading advocate for women in the #MeToo era. It is startling to find her, on p. 116, accompanying Weinstein to a meeting at the Times building. Kaplan was there to defend Weinstein from an entirely different scandal, in which the amfAR AIDS charity had agreed to help reimburse investors in a Weinstein musical. Kaplan, a well-known crusader on gay rights issues, told the Times reporters that their story would hurt AIDS patients, according to the book. Kaplan issued a statement clarifying her role: “Rodgin Cohen of Sullivan & Cromwell asked me to be part of a conversation regarding the AMFAR controversy. Since I was not adequately briefed on the specifics of the transaction, I explained that the only thing I could talk about was the challenging fundraising environment for HIV/AIDS organizations like AMFAR, which I knew well as a longtime member of the Board of GMHC, the oldest AIDS services organization in the country. At that time, I was completely unaware of the serious sexual assault, abuse and harassment committed by Harvey Weinstein or that it was then being investigated by the NYT and others. Had I known then what I know now, I never would have agreed to meet with Harvey Weinstein.”
https://variety.com/2019/biz/news/harve ... 203329374/

However an article saying everyone knew about Weinstein
"Everyone I interviewed started off by saying things like, 'You know he’s a sexual predator, right?' as opposed to jumping right to this issue of financial transactions,” Ajamie says

“ A Texas Lawyer and an Open Secret: How Harvey Weinstein's Charity Fraud Led to His Downfall: For the first time, attorney Tom Ajamie opens up about his pro bono investigation into questionable practices at amfAR that led to Harvey Weinstein's demise”

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... ll-1286557

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Unread post by Moonbeam » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:30 pm

I may be wrong, but do we find out today if Johnny can appeal the UK decision to the higher court?
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Unread post by Lbock » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:57 pm

Moonbeam wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:30 pm
I may be wrong, but do we find out today if Johnny can appeal the UK decision to the higher court?
As I understand this was his last day to file with the Court of Appeals. I don’t know how long they will take to allow permission. I think Depp team will keep it as quiet as possible. As before, I think NGN will leak it again (my opinion) if he is denied. Reminder: nether camp made an official statement on the first appeal with Nichol.
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Unread post by Moonbeam » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:36 pm

Thanks Lbock. I admit I have no legal expertise...techie, here...
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Unread post by Joni » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:46 pm

AdeleAgain wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:50 am
Has everything just gone onto this thread - I was trying to find a Dior thread but can't. Anyway it was just to say - Johnny is all over London again. They've got a big campaign, alternating pictures of Johnny and Charlize Theron. Wonderful and very cheering to see.
We have a Dior thread on the Recent Pics board.

I will move your info over there. :wave:

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Unread post by Inquiring Minds » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:27 pm

Lbock replied to Moonbeam:
As I understand this was his last day to file with the Court of Appeals. I don’t know how long they will take to allow permission. I think Depp team will keep it as quiet as possible. As before, I think NGN will leak it again (my opinion) if he is denied. Reminder: nether camp made an official statement on the first appeal with Nichol.
I think the UK High Court are aware that their Depp v Sun verdict was dodgy. And Nicol left a dangling problem with the donations - he may have thought that was proven (he mentioned it was unchallenged) but was probably not aware that the donations were being investigated via the VA case. Since the verdict was handed down, her honesty and charity have been seriously questioned and the donations will almost certainly be revealed as fictitious. At that point Nicol's verdict will unravel.

If the UK courts deny the appeal they will have cut off any option to publicly and, within the court system, correct the verdict. I believe they will (or would be wise to) allow the appeal, ensure it is heard after the VA case and then they can say their system works. If they deny the appeal, the verdict will be out there with no means to correct it. It would have to be overturned by other cases, legislation or maybe, a directive from the Crown. I don't know the Queen's power these days, but I suspect she can still throw it out (or cause it to be thrown out).

It will cost the courts nothing to allow the appeal and it means they can hedge their bets against further evidence being discovered.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:02 pm

Another lawyer who thinks Nicol's decision is BS
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Unread post by Moonbeam » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:41 pm

Thank you ForeverYoung. That was incredibly insightful on those lawyer's parts. Not only for me agreeing with them, especially Mr Barnes, but also they sounded knowledgeable and spoke in a manner that I understood, not being legal minded. The fact that Nicol totally Threw Out the tapes of her confessing to hitting Johnny has Always sat wrong with me, and probably all of us here. I mean, it was a confession! I really hope he can appeal.
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Unread post by justintime » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:34 pm

Thanks for that video, ForeverYoung. The first fellow was a bit roundabout, but the second guy was very interesting and seemed to follow through to logical conclusions with all his many substantial challenges to Nicol’s rulings. Unfortunately, it seems like neither feel Johnny has a snowball’s chance in :censored: of even being granted permission to appeal - given all the flaws in the UK justice system, the single judge ruling, and the defense of truth option - much less actually winning an appeal. And regardless of an appeal, the costs he now has to pay NGN are beyond staggering...

What doesn’t seem to get much play anymore, beyond the initial discussions after the Judgement was released, is the impact of Nicol’s ruling dismissing authenticated audio tapes as “inadmissible evidence” in court. A ruling that ostensibly could turn the UK court system on it’s ear.

It is the elephant in the room, is it not? Going forward this ruling is, at this moment, regarded as LAW, and must be considered as such. Mustn’t this overstep/misstep on Nicol’s part be rectified before ruling on the appeal request is made? If not how can an appeal be properly argued? More importantly, how can a request for permission to file an appeal be properly ruled upon?

Those tapes are central to NGN’s only witness (AH)’s credibility. If her claims in her own taped voice - NOT “hearsay” - are inadmissible, the UK Court System remains in disarray, with one fewer believable option to discover or combat liars on the stand. I know, no redos, no more testimony permitted at this juncture. But we seem to be in a curiously “Wild West” sort of scenario. Cannot the only two people on those tapes, each, acknowledge it is their voice on the tapes in question?

Since the greedy old fool, Mr. Justice Nicol, apparently drooling for a “Defender of (Tabloid) Free Speech” banner to herald his July retirement, chose to verbally dismember an innocent man on the world stage in such a flippant, unprofessional, and costly manner, mightn’t Justice and Truth, at this point, be granted a moment to right this travesty? A moment to restore faith amongst those where the pair have been tarnished the most, amongst those who need them the most, amongst those watching and listening and hoping for their appearance the most?
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:38 pm

Moonbeam wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:41 pm
Thank you ForeverYoung. That was incredibly insightful on those lawyer's parts. Not only for me agreeing with them, especially Mr Barnes, but also they sounded knowledgeable and spoke in a manner that I understood, not being legal minded. The fact that Nicol totally Threw Out the tapes of her confessing to hitting Johnny has Always sat wrong with me, and probably all of us here. I mean, it was a confession! I really hope he can appeal.
I liked that he brought up the fact that Nicol dismissed doctor reports, police reports and witness statements because the wintesses were employed by Johnny and therefore he said they would do anything for him but believed Amber Heard's lying stab in the back friends.
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