The Lawsuits Thread

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Unread post by justintime » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:44 pm

Thank you so much for posting this, Shook.

I’m taking deep breaths and praying harder than ever that Johnny is on his way, at long last, to a vindication of monumental significance. Three lost years and unrelenting pain beyond even that - can he ever be made whole?
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Unread post by Chocolat » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:11 pm

justintime wrote:Thank you so much for posting this, Shook.

I’m taking deep breaths and praying harder than ever that Johnny is on his way, at long last, to a vindication of monumental significance. Three lost years and unrelenting pain beyond even that - can he ever be made whole?
I have high hopes and good thoughts too, justintime. :highfive: I have faith Johnny is doing well and will continue to heal.
He has a good support group of friends and family surrounding him and the best lawyers. I can't express enough how much I appreciate Adam Waldman keeping us up to date with how the case is progressing every few days. :ok:
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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:40 pm

I can anticipate right now that AH's stans will dismiss this as yet another person on his payroll (you know - like all the various police officers involved in LA, and Seattle, oh and all the building staff ...... in a building he no longer lives in ......) Never mind that she was on national television the day after a terrible beating with no split lip etc ......

I find the blatant nature of the lies just frankly exhausting. How on earth can you deal with someone who just ploughs on in the face of completely obvious truth.

Anyway, great article thanks for posting. I sense that Adam Waldman is a man who is quite enjoying himself.

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Unread post by Ruby Begonia » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:28 pm

Ade wrote: I find the blatant nature of the lies just frankly exhausting. How on earth can you deal with someone who just ploughs on in the face of completely obvious truth.

Anyway, great article thanks for posting. I sense that Adam Waldman is a man who is quite enjoying himself.
:hatsoff: Yes, thank goodness for Waldman!

As for AH, well, isn't she rumored to be a scary sociopath/addict? She's definitely getting desperate now as the truth is coming out and her buddies will probably bail to save themselves. No honor among thieves.

Humble suggestion: click in the Blast and other articles in support of Johnny instead the DM stories the bed sheeters are selling. The latest DM pieces are just anti-Johnny hatefests that won't print pro-Johnny comments.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:45 pm

Amber's PR is trying to divert attention from the setback that happened today and I say good for Johnny! :lovehearts: :applause2:
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Unread post by justintime » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:36 pm

legitimate witness” ??? What does that qualification imply about Johnny’s other witnesses that did not see ah with a battered mug when she claimed otherwise (and even stood firm against changing their testimony at her behest)? Sorry, but it seems even when an obviously justifiable pro-Johnny piece is being written, reporters practically choke on “too much” truth when referencing Johnny’s evidence. These jokesters should be apologizing through their respective noses rather than continuing their adjective games. Ugh - enough already . . .

“. . . .(Samantha) McMillen’s testimony could carry significant weight in the ongoing defamation suit between Depp and Heard, as the stylist is a legitimate witness who regularly works with other stars in Hollywood. In fact, she recently styled Brie Larson‘s much-talked-about look for the premiere of “Avengers: Endgame.”
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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:51 am

Justintime I didn't read that quite the same way you did. So my take on that phrase is that this is someone respected in Hollywood - she's styled a lot of stars even though AH fans will say she's Johnny's stylist. Also 'legitimate witness' in that she must have been up close and personal on those days - especially the TV appearance - and either doing or overseeing her makeup being done. Which would have been done on a fresh, bare face. And no bruises.

Now you've pointed it out, yes it does grate a bit, but I don't think it means the building staff and others are not legitimate witnesses. It's just that this is so compelling I suppose.

And once again - they've got such overwhelming evidence. It is one thing to have footage or pictures; another to have witnesses. Both witnesses and pictures/footage to me says case closed.

Of course the tabloids will ignore this and focus on Johnny's love life with a probably out-of-date story - but strategically it doesn't really matter. This is a court case. She has to win the legal argument - even if they go to a settlement, that will be determined on the strength of each side's legal case.

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Unread post by meeps » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:23 am

NOW they're willing to think, that we should adhere to "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" ...

But I guess, one should be grateful :-) I just wish more had said things like this - piece and comments - three years ago :facepalm:


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Unread post by PaulKemp » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:25 am

justintime wrote:legitimate witness” ??? What does that qualification imply about Johnny’s other witnesses that did not see ah with a battered mug when she claimed otherwise (and even stood firm against changing their testimony at her behest)? Sorry, but it seems even when an obviously justifiable pro-Johnny piece is being written, reporters practically choke on “too much” truth when referencing Johnny’s evidence. These jokesters should be apologizing through their respective noses rather than continuing their adjective games. Ugh - enough already . . .

“. . . .(Samantha) McMillen’s testimony could carry significant weight in the ongoing defamation suit between Depp and Heard, as the stylist is a legitimate witness who regularly works with other stars in Hollywood. In fact, she recently styled Brie Larson‘s much-talked-about look for the premiere of “Avengers: Endgame.”
Maybe they frased it like this because she just now declared this under oath in a deposition.

The other witnesses already did this and their statements are included in his lawsuit. Which makes it clear they declared this under oatch.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:35 pm

Amber's motion papers say NOTHING about Samantha. In fact, she states that on 12/15 there were plans for Raquel and her other make up artist friend Melanie to come over. That night another alleged dv incident happened but she said that Raquel and Melanie put her make up on to cover her bruises so that she could make her appearance to tape The Late Show and protect Johnny. Pffttt!!! iO says that Amber immediately called her but Amber says NOTHING about calling iO in her papers. IO also says in her "essay" that she went to the apartment the next day but Brian McPherson proved that iO was on the other side of the country filming a series and then changed the location of pics on her IG account.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:47 pm

Finally a site steps up and reports the news about the stylist and her testimony. Said she was with Amber all day on 12/16 with no make up (even though Amber said Raquel and Melanie put make up on her) and saw no injuries.

https://hollywoodlife.com/2019/04/25/am ... lack-eyes/
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Unread post by Chocolat » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:50 pm

ForeverYoung wrote:Amber's motion papers say NOTHING about Samantha. In fact, she states that on 12/15 there were plans for Raquel and her other make up artist friend Melanie to come over. That night another alleged dv incident happened but she said that Raquel and Melanie put her make up on to cover her bruises so that she could make her appearance to tape The Late Show and protect Johnny. Pffttt!!! iO says that Amber immediately called her but Amber says NOTHING about calling iO in her papers. IO also says in her "essay" that she went to the apartment the next day but Brian McPherson proved that iO was on the other side of the country filming a series and then changed the location of pics on her IG account.
Thank you for this info, ForeverYoung. Kudos to Johnny fans who are doing a bang up job researching Heard's court documents and finding inconsistencies everywhere. Surely Johnny's team is also finding bits to challenge :gollum: Amber and her accomplices when the time comes to question them. I hope the fans' "discoveries" are of help to Mr. Waldman and his team. :ok:
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Unread post by Judymac » Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:27 pm

justintime wrote:legitimate witness” ??? What does that qualification imply about Johnny’s other witnesses that did not see ah with a battered mug when she claimed otherwise (and even stood firm against changing their testimony at her behest)? Sorry, but it seems even when an obviously justifiable pro-Johnny piece is being written, reporters practically choke on “too much” truth when referencing Johnny’s evidence. These jokesters should be apologizing through their respective noses rather than continuing their adjective games. Ugh - enough already . . .

“. . . .(Samantha) McMillen’s testimony could carry significant weight in the ongoing defamation suit between Depp and Heard, as the stylist is a legitimate witness who regularly works with other stars in Hollywood. In fact, she recently styled Brie Larson‘s much-talked-about look for the premiere of “Avengers: Endgame.”
I don't think that this means the other witnesses are not legitimate. Samantha was a good friend and stylist for Amber Heard. Amber can minimize the other witnesses by saying that they are friends or associates of Johnny. It sounds to me like Samantha will have a lot of credibility because she is Amber's friend and she is telling the truth. She will not lie to protect her friend.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:04 pm

Judymac wrote:
justintime wrote:legitimate witness” ??? What does that qualification imply about Johnny’s other witnesses that did not see ah with a battered mug when she claimed otherwise (and even stood firm against changing their testimony at her behest)? Sorry, but it seems even when an obviously justifiable pro-Johnny piece is being written, reporters practically choke on “too much” truth when referencing Johnny’s evidence. These jokesters should be apologizing through their respective noses rather than continuing their adjective games. Ugh - enough already . . .

“. . . .(Samantha) McMillen’s testimony could carry significant weight in the ongoing defamation suit between Depp and Heard, as the stylist is a legitimate witness who regularly works with other stars in Hollywood. In fact, she recently styled Brie Larson‘s much-talked-about look for the premiere of “Avengers: Endgame.”
I don't think that this means the other witnesses are not legitimate. Samantha was a good friend and stylist for Amber Heard. Amber can minimize the other witnesses by saying that they are friends or associates of Johnny. It sounds to me like Samantha will have a lot of credibility because she is Amber's friend and she is telling the truth. She will not lie to protect her friend.
I think what this means is that because of her experience she can without a doubt say if someone was wearing make up and what a face looks like that had been injured, even if they did have make up on.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:34 pm

Anyone who is interested in reading AH's motion papers, here they are. It is a lot of read, but the more you read the more you will see holes in her story and things that do not make sense. The exhibits are interesting because they don't match up with other parts of her story. For example she talked about Johnny yelling at iO and cursing at her, yet iO's statement says nothing at all about Johnny yelling at her, never even mentions she spoke with him. I think that is pretty important.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... ismiss.pdf
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